BatteryProfiles

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  1. Kanzleramt

    Kanzleramt New Member

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    Sorry bei ntoolbox finde ich nichts von Erweitert
    Kannst du mir bitte noch mal auf die Sprünge helfen?

    Habe es gefunden vielen Dank

    PS bekomme leider eine Fehlermeldung an Error occurred during battery Import...
    Schade funktioniert bei mir nicht.
     
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  2. ReikoKitsune

    ReikoKitsune Developer
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  3. Kanzleramt

    Kanzleramt New Member

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    Im Sorry for that didnt recognize.
    Maybe can You help me with my problem if i choose the battery file and will Import IT I get the message an error occurred with the imported battery file...
     
  4. ReikoKitsune

    ReikoKitsune Developer
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    If you are using profiles from this thread - they are deprecated and in the old format, that's why Toolbox can't import them.
     
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  5. Kanzleramt

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    Okay Thx for Info but how can i find the right one ist Need VTC6 and vtc5a
     
  6. ReikoKitsune

    ReikoKitsune Developer
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    You will not find correct discharge profiles for YOUR batteries.
    Each battery discharge profile is unique and depends on many things like usage, charge/discharge count, discharge current, temperature on which they are storing and so on.
    Also discharge profile is slightly changing every day of using. Thats why predefined profiles is evil.

    P.S. I'am using GEN profile and happy with it ^^

    A simple guide how to create own discharge profile: https://nfeteam.org/forum/threads/usb-current-limit.775/#post-2942
     
  7. Kanzleramt

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    Ok Thx You ist will read that stuff.
     
  8. xMyPa9L

    xMyPa9L New Member

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    1xSony_VTC6
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,2.89000010490417
    2.43296909332275,3.02999997138977
    8.33167839050293,3.22000002861023
    13.5551137924194,3.34999990463257
    18.788480758667,3.4300000667572
    31.886791229248,3.53999996185303
    47.6067504882813,3.71000003814697
    67.2591857910156,3.85999989509583
    77.7358474731445,3.97000002861023
    96.0774612426758,4.07000017166138
    100,4.17000007629395

    1xSony_VTC5A
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,2.83999991416931
    0.753524601459503,2.91000008583069
    3.038405418396,3.03999996185303
    8.49538135528564,3.21000003814697
    18.145357131958,3.42000007629395
    24.137092590332,3.49000000953674
    38.1137580871582,3.57999992370605
    80.0437545776367,3.95000004768372
    86.0354919433594,4.01999998092651
    96.0136108398438,4.09000015258789
    100,4.19000005722046

    1xSony_VTC5
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,2.86999988555908
    0.765432119369507,3.00999999046326
    2.14814829826355,3.14000010490417
    3.12345671653748,3.20000004768372
    5.66666698455811,3.26999998092651
    17.8888893127441,3.42000007629395
    45.2592582702637,3.60999989509583
    89.0617294311523,4.03000020980835
    92.7160491943359,4.05000019073486
    98.185188293457,4.11999988555908
    100,4.19000005722046

    LG-HG2
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,3.11999988555908
    4.10263633728027,3.25999999046326
    8.67051982879639,3.38000011444092
    13.2066831588745,3.45000004768372
    25.8071327209473,3.55999994277954
    37.9070892333984,3.64000010490417
    78.7818984985352,4.01000022888184
    96.4613037109375,4.1100001335144
    98.4844207763672,4.1399998664856
    99.4924545288086,4.17000007629395
    100,4.19999980926514

    LG-HE2
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,3.03999996185303
    1.38099777698517,3.11999988555908
    3.98954939842224,3.23000001907349
    4.46647024154663,3.24000000953674
    6.37415504455566,3.3199999332428
    8.75876140594482,3.39000010490417
    11.6202878952026,3.45000004768372
    24.9782276153564,3.5699999332428
    49.7988624572754,3.72000002861023
    99.0420074462891,4.19999980926514
    100,4.21999979019165

    LG-HE4
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,3.23000001907349
    3.38563179969788,3.3199999332428
    10.8133773803711,3.47000002861023
    19.0999183654785,3.51999998092651
    26.7341041564941,3.58999991416931
    47.6796035766602,3.69000005722046
    61.5111465454102,3.78999996185303
    83.8687057495117,4
    96.4079284667969,4.13000011444092
    99.5458297729492,4.17999982833862
    100,4.19999980926514

    1xSamsung30Q
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,2.89000010490417
    2.60756206512451,3.01999998092651
    7.38140630722046,3.16000008583069
    19.1154346466064,3.41000008583069
    40.3369789123535,3.60999989509583
    45.6423645019531,3.6800000667572
    65.5300369262695,3.82999992370605
    73.4831008911133,3.92000007629395
    94.7046432495117,4.03999996185303
    98.6861877441406,4.1100001335144
    100,4.17000007629395

    1xSamsung25R
    "Battery Charge (%)","Cell Voltage (V)"
    0,2.90000009536743
    1.34836971759796,3.01999998092651
    3.84898257255554,3.16000008583069
    9.23020362854004,3.35999989509583
    12.4172592163086,3.42000007629395
    21.9661674499512,3.50999999046326
    39.4827156066895,3.61999988555908
    64.9669036865234,3.8199999332428
    90.4510879516602,3.98000001907349
    98.4187316894531,4.11999988555908
    100,4.17999982833862

    dna.csv =) You need to understand that the profile of the battery may differ from state cycles of charge / discharge and number of batteries is one or three. Attention! If you do not know what to do with these profiles it is better to do nothing, this is only fan interest. Run the risk of losing the battery device. Safety is paramount.
     
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  9. Viennaboy

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    Maybe you can upload for the VTC6 in wright format? thanks
     
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  10. xMyPa9L

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    <BatteryProfile>
    <Name>VTC6</Name>
    <Cutoff>2.8</Cutoff>
    <Data>
    <Point Percent="2" Voltage="3.02" />
    <Point Percent="8" Voltage="3.22" />
    <Point Percent="13" Voltage="3.34" />
    <Point Percent="18" Voltage="3.43" />
    <Point Percent="31" Voltage="3.53" />
    <Point Percent="47" Voltage="3.71" />
    <Point Percent="67" Voltage="3.85" />
    <Point Percent="77" Voltage="3.97" />
    <Point Percent="96" Voltage="4.07" />
    <Point Percent="100" Voltage="4.17" />
    </Data>
    </BatteryProfile>
     

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  11. williamclarkonet

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    I just punch all the points percentage and voltage numbers manually
     
  12. Adidi

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    Adapted to current NFE Toolbox version
     

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  13. joeyw007

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    All the battery profile feature does is tell the chip what percentage to display relative to cell voltage. Same as the DNA 200. Lets say you have a charged set of batteries that have been stored for a day and are at room temp. they read 4.12v, that's 100%. Now you, personally, drain your batteries to 3.4v for instance before you swap them out. 3.4v is 0%. Draw a straight line using the ten voltage/percentage settings and you're done. Each cell settles at a different voltage after being charged and 0% is what voltage you want it to be. Simple as that. A straight line from a charged battery voltage reading will be %100 to the voltage reading when you swap out the batteries because they no longer provide the best experience for you or you want to take them down to manufacture spec minimal discharge set to 0% (discharging cells to manufacture minimal discharge voltage will prolong battery life).
     
  14. FaberfoX

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    The issue is that no-load voltage is not linear with remaining capacity, and that's what the profiles are for, as each type of battery has a distinctive curve. If you go with a straight line, you'd be fooling yourself as you can see in the tables of the profiles that are posted above
     
  15. joeyw007

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    I'll agree to disagree. The chip is just looking at cell voltage and displaying a percentage. Nothing else, just calibrates the battery meter for a specific battery, if a user profile is used. Yes the voltage drops under load but then rises and stabilizes. Then the chip reads it so many times per/ then spits a relative percentage based on the voltage and the profile settings onto the screen. Doesn't affect anything other than the calibration of the battery meter. Take it as you like. The profile just calibrates the battery meter. No sense beating your brains out trying to find the magic curve. Its not going to make the device perform any better or worse. Although if you totally screw up the profile it might tell you your battery is at like %75 when it really at %10. NFE even tells you its there because people like to tinker and the GEN profile is most likely the best. No pun intended. Just sharing info on how to calibrate your battery profile for your battery. On a DNA 200 after the battery analyzer is run the line is straight with all batteries until it falls to 3.5v then it obviously drops off a little quicker not enough to make a difference unless you are discharging below 3.2v. Y'all have a good one.
     
  16. Meloserj

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    Do you have the files for LG HB6 as well mate?
     
  17. X-R4Y

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    Well, really? Take a look at https://nfeteam.org/forum/threads/batteryprofiles.104/page-2#post-4889 and you find a profile, simply edit the cutoff to the specification of the LG HB6 and adjust the voltages to your likings. You haven´t read the thread and the comments on battery profiles, didn´t you? You could even use the VTC6 profile if it has the same specification for cutoff.

    Do you switch the profiles everytime you use another battery pack?? I don´t, i use GEN Profile and it works flawlessly. Other box mods don´t have the ability to use "profiles" for batterys since it is nothing useful and batterys work as intended to. Hopefully this feature will be removed from AF :)
     
  18. Meloserj

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    Hi bro
    Actually I am such a person to search and read all posts in a forum based on my search criteria first and then post my requests and questions..
    Since long time back, on my DNA device, I used HG2 batteries profiles. So when I got introduced to NFE, I found out the amazing feature of battery profile already implemented in Arcticfox.
    I asked Mooch as well regarding his test results and if he has the same in csv format, but he told me unfortunately he hasn't.
    But thanks for your reply to my post. Hope this feature will stay and I will try to search web more for the profile.
     
  19. X-R4Y

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    You have a profile already, simply edit it to your likings. Check the battery specification sheet, adapt the values you would like to see on your mod, and well... There you go with a profile. If you want to display 50% if battery level is at 4.02V - edit it and all is fine. If this is useful or not... The mod checks for the cutoff level and displays what you want it to display. Nothing more is a battery profile.

    ---[not for usage]---[only demonstration!!]---
    <BatteryProfile>
    <Name>MY BATTERY</Name>
    <Cutoff>3.0</Cutoff>
    <Data>
    <Point Percent="2" Voltage="3.02" />
    <Point Percent="8" Voltage="3.08" />
    <Point Percent="13" Voltage="3.13" />
    <Point Percent="18" Voltage="3.18" />
    <Point Percent="31" Voltage="3.38" />
    <Point Percent="47" Voltage="3.62" />
    <Point Percent="67" Voltage="3.82" />
    <Point Percent="77" Voltage="3.85" />
    <Point Percent="96" Voltage="4.02" />
    <Point Percent="100" Voltage="4.15" />
    </Data>
    </BatteryProfile>
    ---[not for productive usage!!!]---
     
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  20. Lanzarotechris

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    Hi friends,

    I am looking for a battery profile for the following setup:

    4x Samsung INR18650-25R (green) for the Reuleaux RX300

    Thanks in advance ;-)