DOVPO ODIN 100

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  1. tim_buktu

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    Hello,
    does anybody know what chipset it consists of?

    Could this be the QUEST chipset too?
     
  2. tim_buktu

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    uups, can we move this into "Arctic Fox Project"
    sorry for the missplacing
     
  3. maelstrom2001

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    According to reviews, there is a bit faster MCU than STM32F072, so...
    Excuse me for offtop, here is another interesting mod: Hellvape Arez 120W. I watched the review by @copyman, and it would be interesting to read a few words from him about MCU and the possibility to flash it via USB (in case of our favourite F072).
     
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    okay, but what about the ODIN would this be a candidate for modification to AF?
     
  5. maelstrom2001

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    As I said earlier, I doubt that it is built on F072, so probably no.
    Once again for all :)
    "Chipset" name does not matter. MCU type is critical. The manufacturers invents the names of their "chipsets" according to the wishes of their left heels. We support Avatar, Quest, Vandy Chip, OmniBoard, HM Chip... But it's just a bunch of letters.
    What all these have in common is these - the MCU. We have the universal solution for STM32F072, and in whatever chipset it is used, there is no difference. Another MCU means developing the firmware almost from scratch due to the architecture nuances, while there is neither time nor desire for this.
    Quest is the trademark of the Lost Vape, how Dovpo can use it? :)
     
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  6. tim_buktu

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    Thank you :)
    I cannot see through this jungle clearly, any more. :confused: This insider knowledge is hard to figure out and not printed anywhere.
    I thought that, if the DNA and Quest "chipset" fit into the GRUS and maybe Ursa, too?), there could be some other devices (like ODIN 100) to be similar. Who knows how all these chinese companies glue together? (JWEI: Wimec, Joyetech...)
    I'm asking myself: How can Lost Vape use the DNAxx as trademark of evolv in their devices?
    This may be explained by that they don't build any(?) own devices? Except that ugly "Reference Mod", of course.

    What about a database that carries all the details about MCU, ect?
    I would appreciate to have an overview about what is (or will be) interesting to buy.
    You could build it like a kind of wishlist and we all should think about on how we can support you better...

    And: yes, the Hellvape Arez 120W looks interesting, too :D
     
  7. rrveex

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    I'll try to explain, hoping you're somehow familiar with computers / laptops.

    "MCU" is the embedded equivalent of a CPU. "Chipset" something like a mainboard. "Mod" something like a laptop.

    So saying for instance "LostVape GRUS has Quest with STM32F072" is like saying "Lenovo Thinkpad has Asus mainboard with intel i5". ("Quest" is not the manufacturer, like Asus, but I want to keep things simple, with as few details as possible; mainboards actually also use "chipsets", which have to support the CPU; ignore this)

    What @maelstrom2001 said was that it doesn't matter what kind of laptop it is or what mainboard it has, but whether it has an Intel i5 or not. Unlike common laptop/PC CPUs, which intentionally are (somehow) "compatible", MCUs are very different from each other (purpose, capabilities, power consumption, speed, price, ...)

    Again unlike the PC market, where the manufacturer advertises the CPU (because people want to buy a laptop with "Intel iX", X being as high as possible), MCUs are not mentioned - nobody would buy a washing machine or an oven or a car because of the MCUs it has inside. Even for the very few people who know something about MCUs, having "better" ones doesn't necessarily make your oven bake better or your car run faster on less fuel. The manufacturer has to advertise differently.

    AFAIK, Evolv doesn't sell mods (laptops), but only chipsets (mainboards). So it's like selling "gaming computer with Asus mainboard".
     
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